XP has reached a milestone: The heretics have arrived.-) http://www.boldtech.com/XDlutz.pdf describes something called "Extreme Delivery". Aside from associating a new name, they say (to my surprise), It may be best to skip pair programming and 'test first design' in a proof-of-concept development effort. I have no idea why they feel this may be best; I've send an e-mail message asking. I've also informed them Mr. Cunningham's first name is Ward, not Ron.-| --PaulChisholm ---- What they have done is added a 4 week analysis and design iteration in front. Most everything else is the same as XP.