The kind of engineers that produce or project objects or substances that you can touch. The kind of engineers that know what they are doing, at least most of the time. The kind of engineers that have books with recipes to solve problems. The kind of engineers that work nine to five, at least most of the time. '''NOT''' SoftwareEngineer''''s. FullFledgedEngineer''''''s have books which they have no trouble reading and using, about Software and Computing, and TheOtherThings. ----