As opposed to I''''''mitationEngineers. Perhaps also meaning D''''''egreedEngineers. http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/TNBhistory/connections/photos/C3-1-Collapse-GHM-2786.jpg --Engineer's mistakes often have a "V''''''eryHighProfile" and can be photographed. This one was an example of E''''''xtremeEngineering :) ---- See OxyMoron.