Keith wastes his time with oracle and its associated toolsets. Also Java, Perl and others. Strangely, he can still remember vms dcl commands and RSX pip. Even stranger he supports West Ham (by birth) and Finn Harps (by marriage). He can be contacted at kbines@gmail.com ---- Welcome, Keith! Appreciated your comments on AgenciesDoNotRespectYou. -- BrentNewhall