They will exist. They will do good. They will be respected. ---- Does the XP-infected future belong only to TheCoach and programmers, or to coaches working closely with and inspired by respected methodologists? Of non-programming job titles how are project manager, architect and business analyst going to fare compared to methodologist? In terms of kudos and real influence? --RichardDrake The HistoryOfExtremeProgramming starts with methodologists though they might not give themselves that name. -- WardCunningham