The boss asked the other day, "Do we have experience that patterns really help?" So I can answer him (and so the rest of you can answer when your boss or your client asks some day), add a page with your experience here. Please avoid hand-waving where possible... -- JimCoplien ---- * Industry experience: the ICSE paper, http://www.bell-labs.com/~cope/Patterns/ICSE96/icse.html * Mediator Benefits At Agcs, http://www.agcs.com/patterns * Patterns Education Experience Report, http://www.ksccary.com/ptrnjrnl.htm