Who do you rate (and '''not''' rate) as one? For example, I saw something rated BillGates as one. Unlikely, except perhaps in his younger days. ''I'm not so sure. That original Basic was a pretty cool piece of work'' Maybe either part of KernighanAndRitchie? Can someone be ''just'' a software genius --- or do they some other insightful skill to be rated as such? -- BernardFarrell I tried for a long time to figure out if I was a SoftwareGenius or a SoftwareIdiot. I finally figured out that I guess I'm JustaProgrammer. -- JonGrover