ScottAmbler wrote: ''Agile is a solution. To convince an organization to "go agile" they need to recognize that it solves a problem.'' Yes, but we must first learn what is their problem before we suggest a solution. Otherwise we are solution-probleming rather than ProblemSolving. See ''Are Your Lights On?: How to Figure Out What the Problem Really Is'' by Donald C. Gause and Gerald M. Weinberg. --GeorgeDinwiddie (Reposed from the XpMailingList w/o permission)