The usual ''Three Old Greeks'' are: * MrSocrates * MrPlato * MrAristotle These guys did it all! Some wags have said that the entire history of philosophy is just an extended commentary on MrAristotle. There are a lot of other old Greeks like Pythagoras and others, but the big three are these. See SaintsAndHeroes (and GhostsInUs) for why it matters. -- RaySchneider ---- Hmmm. Not FourOldGreeks (including MrDiogenes) or FiveOldGreeks (including MrAntisthenes), the renowned Cynics. Or is it that we have a different place for them? ''Cynicism was one of several schools of Hellenistic philosophy - don't forget about the renowned Zeno and Epicurus just because they weren't cynics - and while they interacted, they existed to some extent separately. In contrast, no subsequent western philosophy could be discussed without some reference to Plato and Aristotle. So they occupy a separate, we-got-here-first kind of place.'' ---- The word "object" has a special meaning to these guys. LakoffAndJohnson touch on the ''extended commentary'' it has spawned, and offer another view of reality. We object-oriented programmers may be more aligned with the past than contemporary thought. But that might not be bad considering the goals of our programs and the limitations of our computers. ---- There is a great paper published at OOPSLA2000 exploring this idea: "An Aristotelian Understanding of Object-Oriented Programming" [http://swen.uwaterloo.ca/~drayside/]. ---- Don't confuse them with ThreeOldGeeks.