It appears that the public server that was used to provide the Visual Tour is no longer available: * http://www.elpepino.org/webdot/basicpublic.html (link defunct on 29Apr2009) Best guess is that it won't come back, especially given that they recommend others don't provide a public server either. ''Doesn't Google have a public server that lets you do graphs and Venn diagrams and things? Probably nothing like VT but it's public and it serves stuff. But that's Google.'' For reference, here's an example of what it looked like. http://www.solipsys.co.uk/C2/VisualTour.png The nodes were clickable, taking you directly to the page concerned. Depth and width were adjustable within certain limits, although large values caused the server to timeout. The VisualTour was a relatively easy way to look a few clicks ahead in your wiki browsing. At the bottom of every page is a link to the tour which picks up right where you were browsing ("or take a VisualTour" in the bottom). The tour was inspired by suggestions to VisualizeTheWiki (There you will also find scripts which visualize wikis). Keep these points in mind. * The generating script uses http_referer to foil robots. The link won't work ("No page name given") if you block referrer information. * It consults the FindPage indexes which may be up to a day out of date. * It assumes bigger pages are better. * It ignores pages beginning with a few keywords and many male names. * Clicking between pages brings you back here. You can explore the locale of the starting page by following a breadth-first traversal of the available links and prune it to a given width and depth. That can start small, but can be increased following links on the results page. The tour tends to take you to the largest and most often cited pages. In other words, sooner or later you will end up at extreme programming. I use the Graph-Viz software on StephenNorth's server to do the graph layout and rendering. I ask that you use this capability sparingly so as not to overload his or my servers. Thanks. -- Ward ''Could you explain the current heuristics used to select links? - thanks'' ---- IE5 is unhappy about not having the href= and src= attribute values quoted. -- DaveSmith ''Ok. Dona.'' Instead of using an ismap, use the MAP/AREA tags. This will reduce load on the server and be faster for the client. ''Good point.'' Could you use some other mechanism besides requiring the "Referer" header to defeat bots? I'm one of the people for which LikePages and VisualTour don't work. I can fix this by tweaking my JunkBuster config, but "Referer" ''is'' an optional header. Requiring it is bad form. -- TimTaylor ''You can invoke either script with a page name as argument. Don't ask me to put such links into wiki because I've found from experience that it is suicide.'' What about making ascii graphics instead of normal graphics? Transmitting it would be much faster. -- abli, just lurking ---- The tour selects pages that seem to be central just because they contain a lot of links. What would be a better heuristic? * Scan the server log for page read statistics, much like TopTen, only looking at a week or more of data. * Use referrer information to show the most often chosen links from the specific page. * Use the last edited date. This could be a topic specific RecentChanges. * Use categories. Let us choose preferred categories by checklist. * Use weaker and weaker heuristics until you reach some threshold of pages like 10 or 20. * Follow ''all'' the links on a page to a depth of 3 and then use some heuristic (like counting backlinks) to prune down to some threshold like 20 or 30. * Prefer pages that point to each other because they are likely to all be relevant to the original topic. * Prefer pages that have a lot of backlinks because they are likely to be interesting. * Classify pages according to size, number of incoming links and number of outgoing links. Try to get a good balance of large and small pages, a small but non-zero number of pages with a high density of outgoing links, and a healthy dose of pages with a large number of incoming links. * Pages with many links pointing to them are sinks, the more common the citation the more important the sink. Pages pointing to sinks are sources. Sources are ranked according to total value of sinks, and total quantity of sinks. -- BryanDollery ---- How about a Aaron EMO? ---- ObjectFunctionalPatterns is supposed to be a lead-in page for a pattern language but its VisualTour is very disappointing. Yes, its high fanout makes it a magnet for my simple logic. It will be a good test case for future improvements. ---- Minor point: I use BlackBackgrounds, so I can't see the connections between nodes... could very dark grey lines be used instead (would look the same on white backgrounds)? Please and thanks! ---- It seems to me that the VisualTour that spans out from my HomePage focuses on what are the least interesting set of nodes that might be reached. When I read the description of the rules about how they are generated, I think I can see why this is the case. For me, the most interesting thing about people tends to be better summed up in the unusual things that they share, rather than the most common. ---- When I go to the visual tour the first time, it works. From then on I get the previous tour, until I explicitly refresh my browser. I'm using IE6. -- BryanDollery ---- When I click on the link, my browser loads the page, and shows the text. The page source ends with "ismap>", which means (I guess) that the image is just about to be sent. But then nothing happens, even if I wait for hours. Does anyone else have this situation? Is there any solution? I use Windows 2000 with Mozilla 0.9.9, with almost the default configuration. I am behind a (transparent) proxy. -- AMIRLIVNE ---- Have you considered modifying the VisualTour so that the current page is in the center? It would be interesting to see how the current page fits with pages that refer to it, as well as the ones it refers to. -- JimLittle I was just thinking the same thing. That's a nice thing about TouchGraph. -- BillSeitz Jul4'03. ---- Very nice. I got so inspired that I have made my own "visual tour" for my wiki. I have made my map using my Apache Web server's referer log. The four most accessed links from each page are chosen and followed. I have also added some colors in order to make it more appealing. Try it out! http://www.gudinna.com/wiki/karta.php?node=198. -- Xerxes Rånby ---- Is there any particular reason why the code for generating the dotgraph and inserting it into a page is not shared? Ditto for you, Xerxes. -- DanRos I agree, there is no good reason except that the code is somewhat messy. I have published my map-generating code on http://wiki.gudinna.com/324 - hope it is of interest. - ---- So will the VisualTour functionality ever be re-implemented using a different server? *''Doubtful''