A classic Monty Python sketch, in which four "old-timers" play oneupsmanship over how bad they had it in the past. Also imitated on other sketch comedy shows, such as Saturday Night Live. : http://ayup.co.uk/laugh/laugh0.html ---- It's often, consciously or unconsciously, replayed by IT workers, mostly because of the rapid improvement in hardware and software in the span of one career: A: Well, looks like memory consumption is under control. The server ran all night, and never got above 250MB. B: Heh. A: What? B: 250MB. I remember when we implemented an entire database-driven system that did the same thing, and our memory budget was only 32MB. A: Yeah. Of course, back when I started, most end-user machines only had 8MB of RAM...32 would have been a luxury! C: ''(jumping in)'' Eight megs? Eight megs? I used to run a whole corporate server on a machine that big. D: Well, I cut my teeth on a Commodore machine... megs? Try 64k, a 1MHz processor, and three registers: one could add but not address memory, and two could address memory but not add. A: Ahh, you were lucky. You had a Commodore 64, then? I started out with a Commodore PET. 4k of RAM, and we used it to control an entire factory floor. E: Heh... microcomputers. Now, the PDP-8.... ''that'' was a machine. Put any of these Java kiddies in front of that and he'd be crying into his latte. F: 4k bytes of RAM ? Wimps. Why, back in my day we didn't even have zeroes and ones. We had to use the the letter O and lower-case l's. ''...ad infinitum...'' ---- I remember a round of this many years ago in alt.folklore.computers. After someone talked about keying programs in using front panel switches, the inevitable response was (sorry, paraphrasing from memory): "Switches? Oh, we used to dream of having switches! In my day we had to program the machine by licking our fingers and shorting out individual circuits." * "...and it wasn't any wimpy 3.3V (or lower) CMOS, either--this was using vacuum tubes, and there were 300V on those circuits! We lost many a good programmer that way..." ---- I can remember when 250Mb on a ''server'' was considered large.... nowadays, the W''''''alMart-special PC has more RAM than that. (And it still isn't enough to run WindowsXp) ''I bought a PC once, and '''upgraded''' to a 40 MB disk. $1200 (US) for the machine at the time. Now 32Mb costs$20 and fits on my keychain'' * I've seen gigabyte memory sticks, etc. for under $100; and that's the SolidState variety. You can get spinning-disk type keychain drives with several orders of magnitude greater capacity for a similar price. In a couple years, this observation will seem positively primitive. ---- CategoryJoke